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governance survey and are the basis for our discussion for the first 45 minutes of this edition of the "washington journal." good morning. today is saturday, september 29. we want to find out from you about divided government. are you in favor of it? would you prefer to see one party, two parties, three parties? one party versus divided government, your preferences is our topic for the first segment of the program. 202-585-3880 is our number for democrats. republicans can call us at 202-585-3881. independents, 202-585-3882. if you're calling outside the u.s., 202-585-3883. we'll show you those numbers throughout the segment. if you want to get in touch with us via social media, the address, twitter, twithtwith cspanwj. on facebook, it's facebook.com/cspan. if you want to send us an email, that address is journal @organize org. -- is journal @c-span.org. this is the gallup poll we're talking about. it's the gallup annual governance survey. they write while americans tend to lean toward one-party government over divided government in presidential election years, this year finds th

in advance, will be three on the economy and one each on health care, the role of government and governing, with an emphasis throughout on differences, specifics and choices. both candidates will also have two-minute closing statements. the audience here in the hall is promised to remain silent. no cheers, applause, boos, hisses, among other noisy, distracting things, so we may all concentrate on what the candidates have to say. there is a noise exception right now, though, as we welcome president obama... and governor romney. [cheers and applause] >> reporter: gentlemen, welcome to you both. let's start with the economy. segment one. and let's begin with jobs. what are the major differences between the two of you about how you would go about creating new jobs. each of you have two minutes to start. a coin toss has determined, mr. president, gufirst. >> thank you very much, jim, for this opportunity. i want to thank governor romney and the university of denver for your hospitality. there are a lot of points i want to make tonight, but the most important one is that 20 years ago, i became t

's policies of trickle-down government. >> i am concerned the path we're on has been unsuccessful. the president has a view to one similar when he ran four years ago, that a bigger government spending more, taxing more, regulating more -- a trickle- down government -- would work. that is not the right answer for america. >> president obama was more subdued in his comments, failing to make one mention of romney's infamous 47%, and his background of bain capital. addressing romney's tax plan, obama said romney's effort to cut taxes for the wealthy would be to the gutting of essential government programs. box for 18 months he has been running on this tax plan. five weeks before the election, now he is saying his big, bold idea is, "never mind." the fact is, if you are lowering the rates the way you described, governor, then it is not possible to come up with enough deductions and loopholes that only affect high-income individuals to avoid either raising the deficit or burdening the middle class. it is math. >> mitt romney challenged obama's assertion that his tax plan would cost the

on domessic policy, including health care, the role of governments, and the number one issue on voters' minds, the economy. you can expect both candidates to have a say on the 8.1% of the unemployment rate and the national debt. keep in mind with early voting under way in 10 states already, many americans have already cast their ballots. still governor romney and presideet obama have plenty of opportunity to hurt or help their campaign in the next nine minutes. no cheering, no. now, the moderator, jim lehrer of pbs. >> good evening from maaness arena at the university of denver in denver colorado. i am jim lehrer of pbs news hour, and i welcome the new to the first of the 2012 presidential debates between president obama, the democratic nominee, and former massachusetts governor, mitt romney, the republican nominee. this debate and the next three, two presidential, one ice- presidential, are sponsored by the commission of presidential debates. tonight's nine minutes will be about he domestic feature and will follow a format designed by the commission. there will be six roughly 15 minute seg

each on health care, the role of government and the governing with an emphasis throughout on differences, specifics, and choices. both candidates also have to- minute closing statements. there is a noise exception right now as we welcome president obama and governor romney. [applause] revi >> welcome to you both. let's start with the economy, a segment one. let's start with jobs. what are the major differences between the two of you about how you would go about creating new jobs? you have two minutes to start. mr. president, you will go first. >> i want to thank the university of denver for your hospitality. 20 years ago, i became the luckiest man on earth because michelle obama agreed to marry me. so i just want to wish, sweetie, you have the anniversary and let you know that a year from now we will not be celebrating it in front of 40 million people. [laughter] four years ago, we went through the worst financial crisis since the great depression. millions of jobs were lost. the auto industry was on the brink of collapse. the financial system had frozen up. because of the

will be free on the economy and one each on health care, the role of garment, and governing. there will be an emphasis throughout on differences, specifics, and choices. both will have two-minute closing statements. the audience has promised to remain silent. no cheers, applause, or other noisy distracting things so we may concentrate on what the candidates have to say. there is a noise exception right now as we welcome president obama and governor romney. [applause] welcome to you both. let's start with the economy. segment one. let's begin with drops. what are -- let's begin with jobs. what are the major differences between the two of you about how you would go about creating new jobs? you have two minutes each to start. the coin toss has determined that mr. president goes first. >> thank you very much for this opportunity. thank you, governor romney, and the university of denver. 20 years ago i became the luckiest man on earth because michelle obama agreed to marry me. i want to wish you happy anniversary and let you know that a year from now we will not be celebrating it

captioning sponsored by cbs >> i don't think government can solve all our problems but government's not the source of our problems, either. >> i have a plan. i have five steps that will get this economy going. >> i'm not fighting to create democratic jobs or republican jobs, i'm trying to create american jobs. >> i will not raise taxes on middle-income americans. >> the debates will matter to some undecided voters. >> the debates could decide the election for either one of us. >> from denver, colorado, here is scott pelley. >> pelley: good evening. we're about to see the one thing we haven't seen in this long campaign for the presidency-- the candidates side by side. it's the first of three debates between the democratic incumbent-- 51-year-old barack obama-- and his republican challenger 65-year-old mitt romney. it comes 34 days before the election-- though early voting is already under way in many states. the focus tonight is domestic issues, including the economy, still struggling to recover from the great recession. polls show the race is very close nationally, but in swing st

. one is make the big picture. he's the free enterpriser and president obama is the big government planner. and those are big differences in philosophy in government. two, romney has a tax cut plan. he has a spending cut plan. he has an energy plan. he's got to make it clear. he's got to explain to people the connection between his plans and the economic recovery that we have not yet had. that's a tall order for romney. and he's going to have to fight hard for it while the, of course is attacking him. >> you said earlier i was watching kudlow and company, you said the first impression is important. he's got to swing right away. you think he'll do that? >> that's my hunch. i've seen this before. aggressive. he's got to put this sort of line in the sand. here's what i believe. and here's what he believes. and there's a big choice in this election. he is the guy who wants redistribution. i'm the guy who wants growth. he's the guy who wants government centered economy. i'm the guy for free enterprise. he's got to say that. but it's doubly hard because he's got to put meat on the bones

a woman and her children. tonight, turkey announced it had already fired back. the turkish government is deeply hostile to president assad and says that syria must be held to account. they are urging nato allies to help. >> the a very very dangerous situation. all responsible nations need to band together to persuade the assad regime to have a cease- fire. >> this is exactly what many people feared, the conflict spreading and flaming an already divided region. turkey backed the rebels, lightly armed, but without clear that ship. they have taken ground from a substantial army backed by iran in particular. president assad no longer controls his country, but equally he has not lost it. the longer the syrian deadlock, the greater the risk to its neighbors and the region will get sucked into confrontation. >> you will see this proxy conflict boiling over. you need some kind of international momentum to form a consensus that action can shift the ground away from conflict. >> note and to the conflict is in sight. syrian state television is that this does result of unbearable bombings and a l

's happened in our government in recent years and has continued up until now is a breakdown in the trust among our people and the -- >> don't adjust your set. this is what it was like live. hold on for just a second. this is what it was like for people watching the debate that night. [ silence ] >> the pool broadcaster from philadelphia have temporarily lost the audio. it is not a conspiracy against governor carter or president ford. they will fix it as soon as possible. >> the pool audio from philadelphia has been lost momentarily. we hope to have it back any minute. we don't know what's happened to it. >> it took 27 minutes to get that sound back. so the first time we had incumbent president face his challenger on tv in a debate in american history, it was totally novel to the country, it had never happened before, and the verdict to the extent that there was any clear winner or not, nobody really seemed to think there was a clear winner. frankly, it was almost beside the point. everybody was distracted with what went wrong, technically, 27 minutes of silence all blamed on this tiny little c

is trickle-down government and i don't think that's what america believes in. i see instead a prosperity that comes through freedom. >> reporter: romney's reception at the event was reinforced by instant polling that he won last night's encounter by more than 2-1. but at an obama rally in denver, the president charged romney had repeatedly misrepresented his own positions on jobs and taxes. >> so you see the man on stage last night, he does not want to be held accountable for the real mitt romney's decisions and what he's been saying for the last year. and that's because he knows full well that we don't want what he's been selling for last year. (cheers and applause) governor romney may dance around his positions but if you want to be president, you yes to american people the truth. >> woodruff: the president's campaign hit that note again and again, insisting romney had not changed the dynamics of the race, even as they argued he had played fast and loose with the truth. david axelrod spoke on msnbc. >> the problem isn't with his debate performance the problem is with his underlying the

on government. we are now spending 42% of our economy on government. i want to go to the path of growth that puts americans to work with more money coming in. >> you are saying to get the job done it has to be balanced. >> if we are serious, we have to take a balanced responsible approach. it is not just when it comes to individual taxes. let's talk about corporate taxes. i have identified areas where we can make a change that would help the economy. the oil industry gets $4 billion per year in corporate welfare. they get deductions the small businesses do not get. does anyone think exxonmobil needs extra money when they make money every time you go to the pump? why wouldn't we want to eliminate that? tax breaks for corporate jets? if you have a corporate jet, you can pay for a freight and not get a special break. when it comes to corporate taxes, governor romney has said he has wanted to in a revenue- neutral way close loopholes and deductions. that would bring down the corporate rate. i want to do the same thing. i have actually identified how we can do that. part of the way is to not

to be put in to a situation where you have a government determining somebody who wants to put the idea up on television can't do that. that's one of the things with the campaign finance is that it's what to nay say about democracy is the worst form of government except for the worst form of government. the campaign finance system may not look perfect. when you look at the alternative i don't know they are god either. i don't know if it's a good to have the department of justice to determine he can't run television ads. ic you should be able to do that. i think it's a first amendment right. when you move to the constitutional right it starts getting ugly. >> yeah. we don't -- even or side there's been money in elections for forever. lots of money. going back as long as with can. we can go back to george washington and the night before. there was tails of flying rum and beer and the voice rang out the day 6 election day. how to they got out of the book. there's been money and things in politics for as long as we know. i don't think either side of a necessarily thinks the money itself and ha

the variety of these studies, jared might not like them. the question is how would the government do it? i don't know the answer to that to be honest and that's a fair point. >> brown: that he hasn't been specific enough about which deductions? >> we know jared can write a plan that raises taxes on the middle-class. we know i can write a plan that it doesn't. and the question is what plan will we get? >> it's unquestionably the case as lots of independent analysts have found this that if you're going to fill that hole you can't do it just by canceling those deductions and closing the loopholes on the upper income folks. you have to move down below, say 200. you have to get to 100,000, maybe lower than that. at that point you're hid people that we view as middle-class. i believe the governor should specify i'm going to close the mortgage interest deduction. i'm going to get rid of the health care deduction if that's part of his plan. to leave that out strikes me as really quite confusing and misleading. >> brown: the president hasn't been specific about many of these things, too >> and he shoul

wants to have government investing for us. he wants to hire more government workers. he wants to raise taxes, as the vice-president biden blurted out today, they want to raise taxes by a trillion dollars, or more like $2 trillion by our calculation. he has laid out the same policies he has been following the last four years. i don't think that sells very well when people hear that. he also didn't have the chance to continue to misrepresent my views. i got the chance to present my own perspectives. and i think that helped me. >> sean: do you think to some extent that the obama campaign has overreached by calling you a tax cheat and attacking bain capital and even suggesting that you were responsible for the death of this man's wife, et cetera, et cetera, they spent millions and millions of dollars advancing a narrative against you, you know, the president himself saying that your plan is for dirty air and dirty water and you want kids with autism and the elderly to fend for themselves. to some extent do you think that by over reaching and when people saw you side by side that that partl

and they think it's immoral that the federal government has the debt, they don't like the credit card debt that they are care inning their house. a good issue, if you look at all the polls across the spectrum, yes governor romney did very well in this focus group, but he did well across the board with all demographics. a good message that works with one group if it's really good and delivered well they work with all of them. megyn: that is the question about whether governor romney can keep this rolling and get momentum going now with the key voting groups that have been somewhat problematic for him thus far. chris stirewalt thank you. we have frank luntz coming up. we have overnight polling in the debate. with two polls we will debate what the campaign needs to do to bounce back. new developments. a contract fight at american airlines. it hats interrupted flights for 150,000 -fl travelers in just weeks. new worries about the fighting in syria along with growing foreign policy terrance. that's where the candidates are going next, they will debate foreign policy as a new report shows our co

of the highest. >> many of these workers face redundancy. the government says growth will return next year. others say the government has missed an opportunity to reduce state spending and make it easier to hire and fire workers. today's budget hearing reflects a deeper unresolved problem with the eurozone. as we have seen, other countries like spain and greece have been struggling to reduce spending even while their economies are weak or in recession. >> and other things europeans might envy in brazil, they have so much money in the government that response to the slowdown is a stimulus package that has been announced. in other news, ahead of britain posting a financial watchdog has announced a reform to the setting of libor, the benchmark interest rate. the review was commissioned after a fine was imposed on barclays for trying to rig the rate. now to nepal where a plane has crashed killing all 19 people on board. the aircraft caught fire within two minutes before taking off. it is the second fatal accident this year and once again the country's safety record is in the spotlight. >> a jo

, savings, and why the government cannot stop it. >> the prices of food, cheese, butter, milk and even fruit have witnessed an increase of 10% in the last two weeks. people are complaining about that. they are publicly complaining about this situation and they blame the situation on a ahmadinejad. >> today, he put the blame on western sanctions. >> it is very clear, iran is being pressurized. there are sanctions from the enemy telling other nations not to buy iranian oil. this is a secret war. the enemy thinks that with these sanctions, they can defeat iran. they cannot. it is a psychological war. "you can see how much trouble the currency is in. in a week, it has lost 1/3 of their value. what is the cause? as we heard, president ahmadinejad's critics say that he is to blame for bad management. he seemed to agree with the west, that finally there sanctions are beginning to have a real impact. in the last year, the oil exports have roughly halved at as a result of sanctions. would it slide toward economic collapse and bring about the outcome that the west would like? >> hardship might make pe

the number one job of the government is to protect the people. now he is the executive chief commander. that is his no. 1 job in his branch of the government. he did talk about strengthening our military -- he did not mention anything about strengthening the military which mitt romney did mention that he was going to keep the government strong. my biggest issue is the economy right now, but also if you look at the middle east crisis, iran, libya, and some of these other countries, if war breaks out in the middle east, and with the oil problem and fuel shortages, if you think our grocery stores can get into when there is two or 3 inches of snow coming down, imagine getting our oil cut off, and this crisis with our american embassies being under attack. >> so when it comes to the economy, which was the discussion tonight, it did get anything from either of the candidates about what they were talking about as far as policy or anything like that? >> i would have to just say what the president said four years ago, if he could not cut the deficit in half, he does not deserve to run again. i

's like asking the government how often do you beat your wife. >> i should have had a question mark at the back of it. let's face it, okay? but the facts are, no matter how you want to look at this, we had 25 economists polled before this number came out. the average number they expected was about 115,000. >> yes. >> not one of them had a number below 8.1. there were 8.1, they were republicans and they were democrats and all of a sudden -- >> i agree with you. >> do you agree with that? >> i agree with everything you're saying, jack. your question was -- >> then you wake up in the morning and it's 7.8 with a bunch of assumptions. >> there are two great facts you make. as the best ceo america has ever had, there are two very powerful things you can say here. one is let's take a look at how the bls, bureau of labor statistics and department of labor measures unemployment, number one, and b, maybe you think barack obama's not doing a good job and mitt romney should be replacing him. but to honestly suggest that there's corruption, that the obama campaign may have had something to do wi

report from the government. today thursday's weekly jobless claims report. that hits the wires at 8:30. in the meantime, what's been happening in europe is that things have barely bunched there again and they seem to be taking their cues from us.dnched there aganfroms.gnched there agand they seem to be taking their cues from us.ched there again and they seem to be taking their cues from us.hed te again and they seem to be taking their cues from us.ed there again and they seem to be taking their cues from us. dow, nasdaq, s&p all closing slightly higher yesterday. in asia, a long week without chinese trading, but in japan, the nikkei was up by about 77 points. and in bombay, sensex up by 188 points. oil prices actually energy stocks yesterday were lagging as we saw big tumble in crude oil prices. back up by about 6 # ce4 cents, those are levels we haven't seen in quite some tile. ten year note, yielding 1.63%. so that's a slightly higher yield than yesterday. the dollar interesting story, too. you'll see that it is down against the euro. but still 1.2951. so we've been right around 1

sees its neighbors conflicts. the government has called the strike from syria a final straw. left of the isn't family hoped. -- this is what is left of the family home. the families mother and children were sitting in the garden when the shell hit. >> we were eating and we heard the sound obama. the shrapnel fell, hit the wall and in the ground. we could have been killed. -- we heard the sound of the bomb. syria has apologized for the debts, but those of fear another accidental strike. >> we are scared to death. we don't know when another reporter is going to be fired. we are targets and we are really frightened by what is happening. >> this afternoon, the prime minister of turkey won approval from parliament for military operations inside syria. >> we just want peace and security in our region. this is what we care about. we have no intention to go to war. >> turkey is strong enough to protect its borders and no one should test that. >> to reinforce this point, the turkish military stations next to the border. some in this country are worried by where this may lead. tonight in a

a restart of the campaign. it's unanimous the government won that debate. the snap polls after the debate showed that. the governor promised he would aggressively counterattack against any mischaracterizations the president threw his way. an did that all night on the offense. he did offer some level of detail. >> i will eliminate all programs by this test if they don't pass it. is the program so critical it's worth borrowing money from china to pay for it? if not i will get rid of it. obama-care is on my list, i apologies, i use that term with all due respect. >> the big question for the romney campaign, is it going to start to move the needle in his direction. bill: we heard from the romney team, what are they saying about the obama team? >> reporter: there are an awful lot of democrats saying they don't know why the prr obama didn't bring his "a" game. some democrats described his body language on stage as being uncomfortable. james carville said it didn't look like the president wanted to be there, it was too much of a bother. here is what david axlerod. >> the president is never satis

worried are you? >> i am very worried. my friends who are working for the government and contributing and supporting the military don't know what the future is for themselves. they are supporting our special operators on the very edge of battle and watching all of the conversation about defense spending cuts and they are just worried about how to protect themselves. >> brian: i see that good looking guy behind you. what have you done in the last 10 years? >> i recently retired and finished up as sergeant of the task force and special operations and i returned to afghanistan as an advisor for petraeus. >> brian: look at that picture to the right. that looks follow. go ahead. >> right behind me besides the bad mustache. we are training th new iraqi counter terrorism force. >> brian: that was you in bin laden's compound. where they did the famous going through the monkey bars and everything. this is just there. >> what you see there, remember all of the jihadi videos and they popumm out of the ground. that ring i have was made from the mine which bin laden was mining to sponsor terrorism

a view very similar to the view he had when he ran four years ago. that a bigger government, spending more, taxing more, regulating more, if you will, trickle down government would work. >> president obama sounded a familiar alarm. warning of romney's been there done that economics. >> the approach that governor romney is talking about is the same sales pitch that was made in 2001 and 2003. we ended up with the slowest job growth in 50 years. >> whether it was health care, jobs, or medicare, it was romney who stood out for his aggressive ste. >> i just don't know how the president could have come into office facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, an economic crisis at the kitchen table, and spend his energy and passion for two years fighting for obama care. >> the president made his points in a slower, more laid back, often looking down, sometimes appearing disengaged. it's not that he didn't try to rip apart romney's economic plan. >> that kind of top-down economics where folks at the top are doing well, so the average person making $3 million is getting a $250,00

they will be governing from the house most likely. that is the key thing to remind people there is a governing of the republican party that already exists. it's like nailing gel oto the wall. no. you are tied to an actual institutional govern body which actually has a record, which actually is going to propose and vote for things that you actually put on your ticket. they are you and you are they and that connection never really happened. >> and it's not in the future. it's not hypothetical. he said if the ryan claim i would sign it. >> i want to go to lawrence o'donnell who is in denver in the spin room. >> i'm in the spin room now where marco rubio is the star. he's telling them how great governor romney did tonight. i think we have to recognize here that we do not declare the winner of this debate. the voters are going to make that declaration. we're going to find out not tomorrow. we're not going to know for three or four days. we will see a first round of polling on this, minimum of four days from now. so we go into it with our personal expectations and our personal notions about which ca

. this is in a town in northern -- this is after government war planes dropped several bombs on the people there. >>> a suicide bombing in eastern afghanistan leaves 14 people dead, three nato service members among the victims. we do not know their nationalities yet. the taliban is claiming responsibility for this blast. the afghan interior ministry says the attacker drove a motorcycle packed with explosives into a group of soldiers and afghan police on patrol. >> this was a scene outside the building for the punk rock band pussy riot. protesters scuffled with police. some got hauled away. while that was going on outside. inside the hearing was being postponed until october 10th. one of the members says she wants to fire her lawyers because she disagrees how they're actually handle this case. you probably remember these three women in the group were sentenced to two years in prison for performing a song critical of president vladimir putin in a cathedral. the women are all appealing their sentences. >>> at least 28,000 people killed so far in the civil war in syria. now the syrian government as

sense of it all. here is the deal. big questions over the role of government when it comes to the economy. these two guys could not be further apart. did they make their case clear last night? >> it was part of the debate i enjoyed the most. i enjoyed the economic stuff. when it got to the role of golf, jim lehrer asked that and i thought they stated their case and mitt romney stated it well where he said he doesn't believe the federal government can do much that is better than the private sector can be left to do or individuals can do and barack obama, you know, he started by saying the major role of government is keeping its people safe. but that is a fundamental disagreement between conservatives and liberals. i think -- i don't know that too many people would have been confused about their answers or would have expected them to say something else but i think it's important that your vote this time around is determined by what role you think government should have. the key difference to remeer is in the last four years with the economic collapse, we live in a world, in a

. >> he reiterated a new attack. >> trickle down government that the president proposes is one where he will raise taxes on small business, which will kill jobs. i instead want to keep taxes down on small business so we can create jobs. >> romney awoke to rave reviews across the country and democrats admit he delivered. >> virtually everything you said about my tax plan is inaccurate. that's the wrong way to go. we know that the path we're taking is not work that you're entitled to your own plane and house but not your own facts. >> quoting, though not by name, saying the middle class has been buried over the last four years. >> the people having a hard time right now are middle income americans. under the president's policies, middle income americans have been buried. they're being crushed. >> romney was loose and managed to all but call the president an immature fibber without being rude. >> governor romney's central economic plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut. on top of the extension to the bush tax cuts. >> i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. i don't have a tax cut. of a scale tha

had four years ago. a bigger government, spending more, taxing more, regulating more, trickle-down government would work. host: facebook.com/span. what were the highs and lows of the debate is what we had on our facebook page. we're trying to read as many of those as possible. here is the front page of "the news york times." gil from pensacola, florida on our others line. caller: as a debate, i think that mitt romney did very well. this is a about a campaign. the question is where were you then and how are you now? how will you bring it around? what do you have to do to change tax policy? people can see a point in time at any minute and make a decision, but if you are looking at the long road, i keep saying, okay, mr. obama, what are you going to change to get the house and the senate to work together? mr. romney, what is your plan? which of the plants that you talk about are you there for? -- which of the plans are you there for? are you going to give a 20% across the board tax reduction? as a person that follows this stuff, i find it is difficult to take one minute in the ev

civil society, the first amendment has the greatest protection. the government needs to protect the speaker and for those who say they want to engage in violence, we'll arrest you for engaging in violence and all it's going to do is embolden those. >> reporter: during the hearing, the u.s. district judge collier characterized the part of the poster as being part of hate speech and wondered aloud if metro manager's concerns are reasonable and did not issue a ruling today. the person who wants to put up the poster was hoping for a quick ruling and ordering metro it put them up right away. the judge, however, said she hinted she would give her ruling quickly in this case. >>> it's become a dangerous path for residents since january. there have been eight robberies in and around fort taunton park. some of the muggings were at gunpoint. residents are concerned. earlier, kenyon mc. duffy and eleanor holmes norton went on a walking tourist park and they looking for solutions to the crime. >> we have the community support and they have been hard at work and we're going to implement what

because they're too good? >> what we're seeing right now in my view is a trickle-down government approach which thinks that government can do a better job than free people pursuing their dreams. >> it's thursday, october 4th, and "starting point" begins right now. >> good morning! welcome, everybody. our starting point this morning is the morning after debate night in america. both candidates are on the campaign trail today, again, after the first of three presidential debates, the first one, of course, in denver last night. president obama and mitt romney going toe to toe on critical issues, like the economy and health care. and by most accounts, it was mitt romney who emerged the victor. lots of debate analysis ahead on "starting point." we'll be talking live with john mccain of arizona and rand paul of kentucky. from team obama, we'll be speaking with martin o'malley and campaign spokeswoman, jen psaki. plus, obama's former economic adviser, austan goolsbee. first, though, a look at the instant reaction from the debate in the cnn/orc poll, of debate watchers taken right after the debat

of the governments that have supported the opposition into one big category as foreign conspirators. this is a regime that has lost control over enormous parts of its territory over the last 18 months. much of its officer corps has defected. it has failed to suppress the revolution. it has lost control over major urban centers. it's very much on the defensive and this is its way of striking back i think by targeting every government that supports political change in syria as supporters of terror. >> now, you're working very closely with various members of the opposition. there's been a lot of drift simple that they lacked unity. we're not quite sure who they are yet. do you think that they're ready for government yet? >> there is still a significant level of competition and conflict within the syrian opposition. but on a number of issues, including the kind of post-assad future that the opposition is fighting for. we find significant convergence across different spectrums of the opposition that was evident in the work we did with them, it's evident in the work the group that the arab league has spons

. >> we want a government who will talk to the people. parliament must be chosen by the people of jordan. we are not against a king. we are protesting the way that the government and the parliament is performing. >> as many as 10,000 people took part in the protests today. the protests were by and large peaceful. at one stage, it seemed there were almost as many police and soldiers as protesters. we have seen at the tensions that have led to so much bloodshed, and that is perhaps why the muslim brotherhood, which was behind today's to ministration, said it will take part in the electoral process if the king delivers the electoral reforms he has processed. >> from protests in jordan to libya now where this week, a team of fbi agents arrived in benghazi to investigate the assault on the u.s. embassy last month in which four americans were killed. it comes at the same time state department e-mails were being revealed showing a request for the u.s. security team in benghazi, which was denied. >> according to these e-mails, they wanted to keep hold of a plane, which they had in libya. they sa

, it's time to cut back on government. >> the reject the idea that i don't like teachers. >> romney had a momentum. >> i have to respond. >> i said i'm not a perfect man and i wouldn't be a perfect president, and that's probably a promise that governor romney thinks i kept. >> cenk: it's time to keep it real on "the young turks," that's what we do. you can tell from the banners behind me, it did not go well. the president was banged around. it was viewed by more people since 1980. look at that. according to a cnn poll 67-25 a walloping who saw that coming other than governor granholm. not a lot of people. man, it wasn't pretty. today, president obama is probably having this moment, and i'm sure you know, it's called. [ speaking french ] i'm sure it's not pronounced that way. what actors think on the way to the stairs after the shows. oh i should have done it this way. i should have done it that way. we have an american version of that. it's the moment in "seinfeld" where c atstanza thinks of the joke he should have said. watch. >> george, the ocean called. they're running out of shrimp.

so. >> when i first got here, it was always about the federal government and contractors made this place recession proof until we heard the word sequestration. and that's going to take a big hit on this area. what's the latest? >> well, this is a ticking time bomb. we had this massive federal budget package, spending cuts possibly looming. if they trigger because congress hasn't done something, we could lose a lot of jobs in the washington area. washington defense contractors, they would be considered ground zero here. the latest is the white house is again asking defense contractors to stop warning their workers about potential layoffs, so much so now the office of management and budget says the government will cover the legal costs for any contractors that might face lawsuits if they lay off workers without giving them a warning. basically the administration is asking the companies to ignore their liability, the workers potential liability with investors who invest in these companies, they say it's too speck live. republicans say it's playing politics in battleground states

the opportunity to repeat one of his favorite zingers ad nauseam. >> trickle down government. trickle down government. trickle down government. trickle down government will not create the jobs americans need. >> trickle down government, zing. the crowd there clearly energized by romney's debate performance last night and obama's senior adviser david axelrod praised it as well suggesting it was oscar-worthy, though not worthy of the white house. due to some basic problems with simple veracity. >> i'm not looking for a $5 trillion tax cut. i can't understand how you can cut medicare $716 billion for current recipients of medicare. pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan. an unelected board, appointed board who are going to decide what kind of treatments you ought to have. >> not true, not true, not true, not true. and since mr. romney got the last word at the debate last night, why don't we give the last word today to the president. >> he knows full well that we don't want what he's been selling for the last year. so governor romney may dance around his positions, but if you want t

will remain in the law. and what will happen is that we'll cut government services and they've already said what they want to cut. big bird is a little tiny part of it. >> yeah. >> they want to gut medicare, they want to gut social security. they want to increase military spending way beyond what the pentagon wants when we're shutting down these two wars. >> all right. i want to play this. here's what romney said regarding deductions of outsourcing. here it is. >> as you said, you get a deduction for taking a plant overseas? look, i've been in business for 25 years. i have no idea what you're talking about. i maybe need to get a new accountant. >> what's he lying about here? >> there are a whole varieties of subsidies that go to companies that move overseas. there's a report out momentarily, or recently, about $168 million. that's a small part of it. one of the fundamental rules here is that american corporations are allowed to build up untaxed profits offshore. american companies are sitting on $6 trillion of cash. that's $20,000 for every man, woman and child, and about half of it is unta

. mitt romney referred to trickle down government and said he doesn't think that is something the american people believe in. twitter says last night's debate was the most tweeted about event in twitter's history. mitt romney was the clear winner according to twitter. they found 47,000 tweets with the word romney in there, versus 30,000 referring to president obama. in 30 minutes, what a lot of people are talking about, mitt romney's comment about cutting funding for pbs. a local station tells us how the viewers are responding. >>> fbi investigating the death of u.s. ambassador chris stevens, spent 12 hours at the scene of the attack. u.s. ambassador chris stevens and three others were killed one month ago. attorney general eric holder said the probe has been ongoing and it took till now to visit because of security problems. >>> dedication. dedication to finish the job that they started. so now he is home. >> the final farewell to a marine, 70 years over due. >> i am back here at 5:20 p.m. cooled off today, 10-15 degrees in some places. the weekend is coming, how much cooler

. so it doesn't actually cut revenues to the government. but there are cuts in the tax rate that individuals pay. i'm not sure how to count whether that is or is not a tax cut. >> reporter: bottom line, $5 trillion not $5 trillion or there is no bottom line? >> the romney-ryan plan has never specified exactly what the loopholes they will close or how the math adds up, but they say it is not a $5 trillion tax cut because it has these other residual benefits. >> well, that cleared that up, didn't it? both candidates are working hard, though, to win the support of young voters. >> last night students at the university of maryland in college park watched the debate and then offered their opinions of the candidates in a high- tech way. matt jablow has more. >> reporter: for professor philip resnick, the first general election debate of 2012 marked the call nation of one -- culmination of one full year of hard work. >> i'm looking forward to seeing the technology in action on this scale. >> reporter: a computer scientist at the university of maryland, he developed the software pro

government has authorized the use of force and authorized its military to cross the border into syria if necessary. they say that is a warning, not yet a declaration of war. this began midday when a syrian mortar shell landed inside a turkish border village. that killed five people and the response by turkey was almost immediately with responding with retal story shelling, not only shelling but also diplomatically they invoked the defense clause of the nato treaty and called for an emergency meeting in brussels. the other thing turkey has been doing over the past month or so is massing forces along their border, and those forces both the tanks and their artillery was used in artillery barrages that lasted about 18 hours against targets there inside syria. as for the syrians, they say this was an accident, they promise it will not happen again, and it appears as though the syrians have enough problems on their hands, they do not want to start a war with turkey going forward, though, you do have a dangerous dynamic set up here. all of a sudden now curbing key is on a war footing. it is

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